[Chat Log] Nov-Dec 2019

[Tenchi Masaki]

so scientists pathetically said in response: Catch a giant squid at a certain length, bring to shore alive, and perform video recorded dissection on it. They thought this would be impossible but fishermen laughed and said sure okay. The plan is part of a scientific conspiracy which was proven by this incident to discredit ancient reports of giant sea life

 

[Jon Eckart]

From what I see, dogma doesn't figure too much into it anymore, though... there is a fair amount of resistance to anything that challenges the norm, but nothing like it used to be. I also keep an eye on oceanographic discoveries, too.

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

Then they caught one and did everything they stipulated and science had to say fine it’s real

 

[Claire Yeon]

"I cannot comprehend this, so it must be impossible" is a mindset we see throughout all of human history

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

officially science is anti dogma but certain scientists make it clear that if you have evidence that goes against the accepted view you cannot publish it until the community is ready to accept it

 

[Jon Eckart]

From what I see these days, it's mostly just scientists butting heads... I say one thing and you say another, but neither one is really dogma.. the evidence publishing is just a money grab, which is sad in it's own right

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

or simple translation previous scientists have earned careers and this new information will ruin they’re status so you can’t publish your findings and if you do we will ruin your career

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

yes that’s exactly it Jon it’s career based competition

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

and young minds suffer because of it

 

[Jon Eckart]

It's the same way with the patent system or the copyright system... whoever can jump through all the hoops first and publish owns it, and if you can get it in a paid-to-see magazine or something, then you win... it's too bad all society is like that now, and that's why open source will never fully take over... it's free and supported only by volunteers or paid-for and supported by paid-staff... which has access to more info and is more trustworthy to the average person

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

When I went to school and saw a picture of the inside of the earth I didn’t believe it. I was like where’s the water? Under the crust. Scientists said there was no underwater seas but then we started watching old documentaries from the 70s about black smokers and I was like that’s water coming up but scientist never said water they always said “minerals” Or whatever terminology they wanted to use... 35-40 years later: Hey kids there’s underwater oceans! Isn’t that amazing!

 

[Tenchi Masaki]

It's the same way with the patent system or the copyright system... whoever can jump through all the hoops first and publish owns it, and if you can get it in a paid-to-see magazine or something, then you win... it's too bad all society is like that now, and that's why open source will never fully take over... it's free and supported only by volunteers or paid-for and supported by paid-staff... which has access to more info and is more trustworthy to the average person

yeah I’m for open source all the way ironically Apple turtleneck their tech in their own ecosystem wards off most viruses but we need open source the sooner the better